Camshaft Options

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kiwi-craig

Discussion Starter · Feb 23, 2008

Team

I've trawled through the various sites and compiled the following part numbers and RRP for the KTM listed performance camshafts, interesting to note that KTM also has a part number and price for the Hotcams unit in there system as well. Cams are from mild to wild.

59036010000 CAMSHAFT 55 520 RACING 2000 $152.98 This is most probably the stock ptofile

59036010100 CAMSHAFT 8/06 $159.86

KTMS1A HotCams Racing Cam KTM RFS 400-525 $189.95

59036110000 CAMSHAFT 8/33 $149.70

SMS36010000 CAMSHAFT 8/07 MSP $260.83

In the chart below the 55/21 is a stocker out of the 2 wheelers, gives a baseline to compare the others. whats not shown is the timing of each lobe, overlap etc which can later the characteristics of two "similar" looking cams. I'd like to acknowledge Cut7 over on KTM talk who measured and compiled the cam data.

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KTM 505 SX: Web cams / 13.5:1 custom CP / balanced and modded crank / custom Vortex X10 ignition / Ported head / 43.5mm billet centre bored carb / KTM Akrapovic muffler / Mino hi vol water pump / 12 deg flexx's / houser stem / elka 5 / PEP PB1's and PEP LT rear / Walsh Flow A Arms / Quad tech seat & Foam / CF nose / FCI intake / relocated batt box / KTM Bill header / KTM factory SS Oil Pump setup / Manual cam chain tensioner Next round of mods: oil cooler........ the NEW TOP DOG 114 hrs…. best race engine I've owned

KTM 554 XC: sx style crank, light weight SXF flywheel, TT sxf stator, steel linered cylinder, custom JE piston ceramic coating, plus 1 ported head / 807 cam, 43.5mm carb. Mino hi vol water pump. KTM Bill custom exhaust, FCI intake, JB A Arms, PEP PB1s front LT and rear , Lonestar axle, 12 deg Flexx's, CF nose, elka 3 steering damper, KTM factory nerfs, factory white plastic and graphics / gell cell battery Next round of mods: oil cooler........

gotta stop spending $$$ on these KTM's...…..

Polaris Outlaw 525 IRS - 2011, lonestar plus 2 A Arms, cut MXR front shocks (minus 1 ") with ZPS / ttripple rate, FUJ rear suspension rear shock mount units drops ride height 2", FUJ HD adj sway bar, 1.5” rear billet wheel spacers, Polaris nerfs, bumper and rear rack, Yoshi competition slip on, Pro Taper bars, acerbis hand guards, Trailtech GPS with billet protector. KTM throttle / Honda Front master cylinder and shorty lever / 41mm carb & hi flow intake runner / big filter / Billet FCR transition ring. Modified rear spring package / rear revalve.

next round of mods: 8/33 cam, Hi Flow water pump and 540 cylinder / wossner piston waiting to go in, fastway 3 steering damper ala KTM setup, custom header using KTM XC header as a starting piece, light flywheel setup.
gotta have something to modify this year !

LTR 450, My Wife Nicola's ride & my back up mxer - 493 BB / JE piston / special order Yoshi motard cams / custom fueling map / tcs LT ZPS front end setup, TCS rear ZPS revalve / ims tank / TB exhaust / power commander / proflo - K&N / 14 deg flexx's / race nerfs / armadillo bumper/ Denton damper, next round of mods: ported head and carillo rod...... the clark kent of the ATV trio ! 210 hrs and still going strong ! the BB kit transformed this machine, it hauls the mail now !!!!

A garage full of wheels and tires for them all........ speedway / sand / MX / cross country, over 30 at last count all on rims ready to rock

NZ # 1 Vets champ 2013
NZ Vets (40+) North Island MX champ 08, 09, 12 & 13
NZ TT champ Vets (40+) 06, 08, 09,12 & 13
Auckland ATV Club Sprint Series Champ 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 11, 12 & 13
hope to get a good season in for the remainder of 2014.......finding time to ride being the biggest problem !

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Quadevil

· #2 · Feb 23, 2008

I can't find 8/06 cam, very interested in that one to mod the engine. How you compare it to hotcams stage1? people say that 8/06 is a better "all around" and hotcams is more for high end rpms and you'll lose bottom...

kiwi-craig

Discussion Starter · #3 · Feb 23, 2008

Quadevil said:
I can't find 8/06 cam, very interested in that one to mod the engine. How you compare it to hotcams stage1? people say that 8/06 is a better "all around" and hotcams is more for high end rpms and you'll lose bottom...

Yup thats the general feedback from the two wheeler guys.

go to the KTM hard parts website

KTM Hard Parts Website

in the top right corner there is a search box, type in camshaft 8/06 and it will bring up the details.

KTM 505 SX: Web cams / 13.5:1 custom CP / balanced and modded crank / custom Vortex X10 ignition / Ported head / 43.5mm billet centre bored carb / KTM Akrapovic muffler / Mino hi vol water pump / 12 deg flexx's / houser stem / elka 5 / PEP PB1's and PEP LT rear / Walsh Flow A Arms / Quad tech seat & Foam / CF nose / FCI intake / relocated batt box / KTM Bill header / KTM factory SS Oil Pump setup / Manual cam chain tensioner Next round of mods: oil cooler........ the NEW TOP DOG 114 hrs…. best race engine I've owned

KTM 554 XC: sx style crank, light weight SXF flywheel, TT sxf stator, steel linered cylinder, custom JE piston ceramic coating, plus 1 ported head / 807 cam, 43.5mm carb. Mino hi vol water pump. KTM Bill custom exhaust, FCI intake, JB A Arms, PEP PB1s front LT and rear , Lonestar axle, 12 deg Flexx's, CF nose, elka 3 steering damper, KTM factory nerfs, factory white plastic and graphics / gell cell battery Next round of mods: oil cooler........

gotta stop spending $$$ on these KTM's...…..

Polaris Outlaw 525 IRS - 2011, lonestar plus 2 A Arms, cut MXR front shocks (minus 1 ") with ZPS / ttripple rate, FUJ rear suspension rear shock mount units drops ride height 2", FUJ HD adj sway bar, 1.5” rear billet wheel spacers, Polaris nerfs, bumper and rear rack, Yoshi competition slip on, Pro Taper bars, acerbis hand guards, Trailtech GPS with billet protector. KTM throttle / Honda Front master cylinder and shorty lever / 41mm carb & hi flow intake runner / big filter / Billet FCR transition ring. Modified rear spring package / rear revalve.

next round of mods: 8/33 cam, Hi Flow water pump and 540 cylinder / wossner piston waiting to go in, fastway 3 steering damper ala KTM setup, custom header using KTM XC header as a starting piece, light flywheel setup.
gotta have something to modify this year !

LTR 450, My Wife Nicola's ride & my back up mxer - 493 BB / JE piston / special order Yoshi motard cams / custom fueling map / tcs LT ZPS front end setup, TCS rear ZPS revalve / ims tank / TB exhaust / power commander / proflo - K&N / 14 deg flexx's / race nerfs / armadillo bumper/ Denton damper, next round of mods: ported head and carillo rod...... the clark kent of the ATV trio ! 210 hrs and still going strong ! the BB kit transformed this machine, it hauls the mail now !!!!

A garage full of wheels and tires for them all........ speedway / sand / MX / cross country, over 30 at last count all on rims ready to rock

NZ # 1 Vets champ 2013
NZ Vets (40+) North Island MX champ 08, 09, 12 & 13
NZ TT champ Vets (40+) 06, 08, 09,12 & 13
Auckland ATV Club Sprint Series Champ 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 11, 12 & 13
hope to get a good season in for the remainder of 2014.......finding time to ride being the biggest problem !

Kill The Monster

· #4 · Feb 23, 2008

I have a 8/06 cam Im going to sell. It was used as a dyno cam only. It has less than 2 hours on the cam. I will sell it for 125 shipped in the usa

Quadevil

· #5 · Feb 23, 2008

kiwi-craig said:
Yup thats the general feedback from the two wheeler guys.

go to the KTM hard parts website

KTM Hard Parts Website

in the top right corner there is a search box, type in camshaft 8/06 and it will bring up the details.

Thank you

@MOTO HEADZ RACING
Nice deal man, if i had the bike already i would buy the cams but only gonna get it in summer. Also i'm in Europe...

Cheers

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kiwi-craig

Discussion Starter · #6 · Feb 23, 2008

Moto, what was the result from the dyno runs, I presume you looked into the KTM cams during the 610 kit build up ? ? the guys on KTM talk are tending to go with the 8/07 on the 610's

KTM 505 SX: Web cams / 13.5:1 custom CP / balanced and modded crank / custom Vortex X10 ignition / Ported head / 43.5mm billet centre bored carb / KTM Akrapovic muffler / Mino hi vol water pump / 12 deg flexx's / houser stem / elka 5 / PEP PB1's and PEP LT rear / Walsh Flow A Arms / Quad tech seat & Foam / CF nose / FCI intake / relocated batt box / KTM Bill header / KTM factory SS Oil Pump setup / Manual cam chain tensioner Next round of mods: oil cooler........ the NEW TOP DOG 114 hrs…. best race engine I've owned

KTM 554 XC: sx style crank, light weight SXF flywheel, TT sxf stator, steel linered cylinder, custom JE piston ceramic coating, plus 1 ported head / 807 cam, 43.5mm carb. Mino hi vol water pump. KTM Bill custom exhaust, FCI intake, JB A Arms, PEP PB1s front LT and rear , Lonestar axle, 12 deg Flexx's, CF nose, elka 3 steering damper, KTM factory nerfs, factory white plastic and graphics / gell cell battery Next round of mods: oil cooler........

gotta stop spending $$$ on these KTM's...…..

Polaris Outlaw 525 IRS - 2011, lonestar plus 2 A Arms, cut MXR front shocks (minus 1 ") with ZPS / ttripple rate, FUJ rear suspension rear shock mount units drops ride height 2", FUJ HD adj sway bar, 1.5” rear billet wheel spacers, Polaris nerfs, bumper and rear rack, Yoshi competition slip on, Pro Taper bars, acerbis hand guards, Trailtech GPS with billet protector. KTM throttle / Honda Front master cylinder and shorty lever / 41mm carb & hi flow intake runner / big filter / Billet FCR transition ring. Modified rear spring package / rear revalve.

next round of mods: 8/33 cam, Hi Flow water pump and 540 cylinder / wossner piston waiting to go in, fastway 3 steering damper ala KTM setup, custom header using KTM XC header as a starting piece, light flywheel setup.
gotta have something to modify this year !

LTR 450, My Wife Nicola's ride & my back up mxer - 493 BB / JE piston / special order Yoshi motard cams / custom fueling map / tcs LT ZPS front end setup, TCS rear ZPS revalve / ims tank / TB exhaust / power commander / proflo - K&N / 14 deg flexx's / race nerfs / armadillo bumper/ Denton damper, next round of mods: ported head and carillo rod...... the clark kent of the ATV trio ! 210 hrs and still going strong ! the BB kit transformed this machine, it hauls the mail now !!!!

A garage full of wheels and tires for them all........ speedway / sand / MX / cross country, over 30 at last count all on rims ready to rock

NZ # 1 Vets champ 2013
NZ Vets (40+) North Island MX champ 08, 09, 12 & 13
NZ TT champ Vets (40+) 06, 08, 09,12 & 13
Auckland ATV Club Sprint Series Champ 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 11, 12 & 13
hope to get a good season in for the remainder of 2014.......finding time to ride being the biggest problem !

Kill The Monster

· #7 · Feb 23, 2008

kiwi-craig said:
Moto, what was the result from the dyno runs, I presume you looked into the KTM cams during the 610 kit build up ? ? the guys on KTM talk are tending to go with the 8/07 on the 610's

The 8/06 cam has the best powerband for all types of riding. The 8/07 cam pulls better on top and works well with the 610 and drag builds. If you use this cam in small engines you make it lose its best trait "ridability" The 8/07 in the big cc builds 576,610 has a little less snap of idle and builds to a nice hard pull to the rev limiter. The 8/06 hits hard and pulls hard in a 450,525,540.

Quadevil

· #8 · Feb 23, 2008

MOTO HEADZ RACING said:
The 8/06 cam has the best powerband for all types of riding. The 8/07 cam pulls better on top and works well with the 610 and drag builds. If you use this cam in small engines you make it lose its best trait "ridability" The 8/07 in the big cc builds 576,610 has a little less snap of idle and builds to a nice hard pull to the rev limiter. The 8/06 hits hard and pulls hard in a 450,525,540.

I'm going with a 576 (540kit+stroker) so what would you recommend? 8/06 or 8/07?
I will use high revs but not too much. More around 5000-8000

Kill The Monster

· #9 · Feb 24, 2008

I would use the 8/06 in most builds its just a realy good cam

derbyking

· #10 · Mar 4, 2008

what kind of rear wheel #'s you seeing with a built 610 ? a better answer might be what gains over a stocker are you seeing.

Kill The Monster

· #11 · Mar 4, 2008

klein racing said:
what kind of rear wheel #'s you seeing with a built 610 ? a better answer might be what gains over a stocker are you seeing.

450 XC to 610 XC

I gained 22hp and 19 ftlbs on one 610 with 11-1 compression, stock pipe, stock carb, stock valves, stock airfilter, 8/06 cam
I gained 29hp and 22 ftlbs on one 610 with Akrapovic pipe, 43 fcr, + 2 valves stock, airfilter, 11-1 compression, and my cam

MOTO HEADZ RACING
1 530 927 9827

Quadevil

· #12 · Mar 5, 2008

MOTO HEADZ RACING said:
450 XC to 610 XC

I gained 22hp and 19 ftlbs on one 610 with 11-1 compression, stock pipe, stock carb, stock valves, stock airfilter, 8/06 cam
I gained 29hp and 22 ftlbs on one 610 with Akrapovic pipe, 43 fcr, + 2 valves stock, airfilter, 11-1 compression, and my cam

MOTO HEADZ RACING
1 530 927 9827

Hmm so the akrap + 43fcr + 2"valves + airfilter and dif. cam gave more 7hp. Nice to know, thanks

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LTZ470

· #13 · Mar 23, 2008

Mike what does the 8/33 Cam do?

tersejr

· #14 · Apr 30, 2008

Any one seen the new Hot Cam specs? They list the specs as

10.8mm/ 271* IN
10.2mm/ 261* EX

Is this a new updated cam? The part number is 3015-1

chewie88

· #15 · 24 d ago

Quadevil said:
Hmm so the akrap + 43fcr + 2"valves + airfilter and dif. cam gave more 7hp. Nice to know, thanks

What cam are you running? What does "my cam" mean?

chewie88

· #16 · 24 d ago

Kill The Monster said:
450 XC to 610 XC

I gained 22hp and 19 ftlbs on one 610 with 11-1 compression, stock pipe, stock carb, stock valves, stock airfilter, 8/06 cam
I gained 29hp and 22 ftlbs on one 610 with Akrapovic pipe, 43 fcr, + 2 valves stock, airfilter, 11-1 compression, and my cam

MOTO HEADZ RACING
1 530 927 9827

What is "my cam"?

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